tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2925624084410433889.post173451485389080642..comments2023-10-24T10:55:02.683+02:00Comments on Tor's F-22 R Panta Rei: Sailing characteristics, now what?Tor Rabehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05504285787153280086noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2925624084410433889.post-21469018306468550452012-11-24T03:37:02.280+01:002012-11-24T03:37:02.280+01:00This time I totally agree! What I meant about C f...This time I totally agree! What I meant about C foils is the total of pros and cons for me. Essentially, that's the only solution to keep the boat foldable and trailerable, except I-foils which I consider less user friendly and almost certainly less effectiveTor Rabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05504285787153280086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2925624084410433889.post-3312712836514437672012-11-24T03:02:12.305+01:002012-11-24T03:02:12.305+01:00Hi Tor,
You have a great point about the addition...Hi Tor,<br /><br />You have a great point about the additional buoyancy and distance from COG and yes the bow fins are also the final straw when it really turns to custard.<br /><br />I agree on the foils but the C,L, I or T config is the question. I figured that I could make the C section in parts but Silas should be able to eat it with his CNC though. The L has some control advantages and the T is a proven design but they both have issues with trailer and folding.<br /><br />I guess we are in the same boat, on opposite sides of the planet so to speak. <br /><br />Andrew<br />www.andrew-mcleod.com<br /><br />CrashGybe 22https://www.blogger.com/profile/12985843360402048387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2925624084410433889.post-16774730101497204832012-11-24T01:12:42.620+01:002012-11-24T01:12:42.620+01:00Thank you Andrew!
I'm afraid I'll have to...Thank you Andrew!<br /><br />I'm afraid I'll have to disagree.<br /><br />20 litres of buoyancy as far from the COG as possible will likely make a significant difference, adding another virtual crew at the aft beam.<br /><br />Ideally, I'd like 50 - 100% increased volume in the floats, and float rudders, but then it would not be a folding boat.<br /><br />Regarding bow fins, I've considered that. I'm sure Murphy is out there sailing as well, and sooner or later I'm afraid such fins will contribute to the ultimate nose dive.<br /><br />The only viable foil option is C-foils, the way I see it.<br /><br />The one thing not on my list is canting rig. This will reduce down force and hence make effective float buoyancy higher. Tor Rabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05504285787153280086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2925624084410433889.post-49143290771811823662012-11-23T20:30:02.746+01:002012-11-23T20:30:02.746+01:00Hi Tor,
The bow mods look good and somewhat famil...Hi Tor,<br /><br />The bow mods look good and somewhat familiar, but I am not sure that the additional volume will produce the required force to stop the bow bury. One suggestion not on the list are bow fins. here is not a great example but you will get the point ( pardon the pun ) http://www.windriderforum.com/gallery//displayimage.php?album=9&pos=13<br /><br />Question really then becomes can they be made in such a way that produces the required lift and looks the part without interfering with the bow down when going into wind? <br /><br />I am still thinking foils but having put float to hull yesterday, the room to move is a real problem.<br /><br />Andrew<br />www-andrew-mcleod.comCrashGybe 22https://www.blogger.com/profile/12985843360402048387noreply@blogger.com