I was done with the contouring above gunwhale. However, someone has been using a random orbital sander and some areas are not longer the correct contour, although with a very fine finish. Arrrgh! I don't know yet how much attention I will pay to this. Also, the beam recesses was finished, and I also told so to my workers that no more work was needed there, but they still managed to put a lot of filler into the upper folding strut recesses, which was a pain to get out. Silas did a great job helping me with that.
A few small projects was not finished, like the engine control. I had to put the engine back on, rebuild it to accommodate remote control, and decide on the placement of the tube for control wires and gas.
In the cockpit, I had to glue back in a piece of a cut out to accommodate the Teleflex mechanism with the flush Spinlock front plate for winch handle. (I was hoping to fit this in the extended part of the coaming but this turned out to be too tight)
Some more work on the front deck was needed after building back up the flat panels under the bow nets each side (second time I do this). Then I marked the position of HD and drilled for pulpit and fairleads. I will have to build up a pad for the aft pulpit support.
And I have to make pads for winches and mastfoot.
I have faired the modified part of the cockpit
And I made a 2" tube for the control wires, fuel hose and electrical wires from the engine. Still to be glued, laminated and trimmed to fit. This tube runs from the aft cabin transom
Trough the aft cabin, where it serves as a perfect hand rail (and possibly a shelf front)
And enters the under settee compartment
Sunday, May 22, 2011
Thursday, May 19, 2011
Some thoughts on using hired help for an F-boat
Sorry all, long time no updates. I've been too upset and busy to sit down and write. I had originally dismissed the thought of using help for the fairing, mainly because I did not expect to find anyone able to do the work to my standards within a tolerable cost. Then I got these two guys recommended by the painter and I could see the boat finished maybe two months earlier. The problems rose before work started, as they did not show up. Then one showed up for two days instead of two until finished, and so on. It did look, however, as he was doing a good job. I was not able to be there and help and guide, mostly during Easter, but I had given instructions, or so I thought. By the end of Easter my costs had reached $5.000, the boat was more bumpy than ever and worst: It was covered in patches of fairing compound of different mix ratios. And on top of that, fine fairing using electrical tools had started. Even those areas already finished by me before this week had been ruined. That is when I ended their engagement.
Since then I have spent every available minute sweating over the longboard, trying to save the boat. It looked like I had to do another big fill, but it seems now I will be able to get an acceptable finish, although not as I hoped, by thorough work with the longboard and a few extra highbuild fills. No need to say, the boat was not ready for painting early April as planned, as it is still not so. I'm getting closer, though.
This is after about one and a half week of sanding with 40 grit. Most of the big bumps are removed.
Couple of days later. A test run of modified highbuild is applied. Never succeeded in sourcing the Hempel High Protect that was supposed to be good. The Jotun HB I used for the floats are banned; contains aluminium and is almost impossible to sand. I make my own now from Biltema Epoxy Primer added a modest amount of Microballoons.
Around 90% of the filler is now see trough to the laminate, which means the hull itself was very fair. The last unevenness are extremely hard to remove as the differences in hardness of the various batches of fairing compound come into play.
The scimming coat done to the lower half of the hull.This is a mix of about 5% microballoons in epoxy, and it fills the pinholes well as well as it fills up the surface of the micro and harden it. I have tried different methods of applying, using roller and squeegee. Then I remove all I can with a steel squeegee. I think the best is to apply with a plastic squeegee, and be cautious to remove the epoxy when it starts getting dry. This happens quite fast depending on the state of the micro, as epoxy is "sucked" into the surface of the filler.
The waterline was established using a laser leveller and then taped
Jotun Antipest sealing eposy applied to the underwater area.
Since then I have spent every available minute sweating over the longboard, trying to save the boat. It looked like I had to do another big fill, but it seems now I will be able to get an acceptable finish, although not as I hoped, by thorough work with the longboard and a few extra highbuild fills. No need to say, the boat was not ready for painting early April as planned, as it is still not so. I'm getting closer, though.
This is after about one and a half week of sanding with 40 grit. Most of the big bumps are removed.
Couple of days later. A test run of modified highbuild is applied. Never succeeded in sourcing the Hempel High Protect that was supposed to be good. The Jotun HB I used for the floats are banned; contains aluminium and is almost impossible to sand. I make my own now from Biltema Epoxy Primer added a modest amount of Microballoons.
Around 90% of the filler is now see trough to the laminate, which means the hull itself was very fair. The last unevenness are extremely hard to remove as the differences in hardness of the various batches of fairing compound come into play.
The scimming coat done to the lower half of the hull.This is a mix of about 5% microballoons in epoxy, and it fills the pinholes well as well as it fills up the surface of the micro and harden it. I have tried different methods of applying, using roller and squeegee. Then I remove all I can with a steel squeegee. I think the best is to apply with a plastic squeegee, and be cautious to remove the epoxy when it starts getting dry. This happens quite fast depending on the state of the micro, as epoxy is "sucked" into the surface of the filler.
The waterline was established using a laser leveller and then taped
Jotun Antipest sealing eposy applied to the underwater area.
Saturday, April 23, 2011
Here's a bit on fairing
I faired the floats using the "candy bag method" ie put strips of fairing compound every 10cm or so, fair down to get the level, and then fill between the ridges. I had to fill three times because the compound shrinks as it cures. I used SP system S-Fair 600 which is a smooth, quite heavy and very expensive compound. It's not very easily sanded and takes forever to cure. Theory is that you'd rather spend time applying fairing compound than removing it. In retrospect, this does not seem like the best way. It might have been something about my fairing skills at the time, but the fact is I probably had to re apply fairing compound at low spots 20+ times before I got the desired surface finish.
From a link on Andrew's blog, I got acquainted with the air plane home builders' method of choice, and this is more or less what I have been doing now, also supported by the preferences of the pro that I had a few days, and who is back now to finish the hull. Some problems though, as when I ask my worker (the not so pro one) to fill the low spots before he goes home, I return the next morning to find he has applied an insufficient layer of fairing compound to 3/4 of one hull side instead of filling the low spots (that I already pointed out to him) on both sides. So had to fair almost all of it back instead of the patches before the big fill. That's life when time has to be divided to several tasks and obligations.
I also changed to mixing up my own compound. This seemed to me as an unpleasant task at first, but it's not that bad actually. I use Svapox epoxy with GL hardener, an inexpensive laminating system with a medium working time, and add 27% weight (about 300% volume I'd guess) of micro glass balloons to get a non sagging, quite dry (have to use force and slow speed for it to attach properly) and light, easily sanded compound. The point is to fill ENOUGH to fill all low spots, then sand back to the correct contouring in one go. Preferably, the low spots should be pre filled and sanded when not fully cured (cheese grating) in order to avoid any low spots to occur due to crimp during cure. I use my favourite grit 40 on the rigid board until I have the perfect shape and see the high spots of the laminate shining trough the filler. This saves huge on time spent, and it is much easier to get an even surface compared to the patchwork on the floats. Then it's time top fill pin holes, and change to finer grit to prepare for the water penetration barrier.
I guess all this is subjective, but this is my experience.
A few shots of the situation after removing 90% of yesterday's compound today:
These kind of disrupted surfaces takes a lot of time:
And I finally made the hole in the bobstay anchor, had been postponing it for a few years:
From a link on Andrew's blog, I got acquainted with the air plane home builders' method of choice, and this is more or less what I have been doing now, also supported by the preferences of the pro that I had a few days, and who is back now to finish the hull. Some problems though, as when I ask my worker (the not so pro one) to fill the low spots before he goes home, I return the next morning to find he has applied an insufficient layer of fairing compound to 3/4 of one hull side instead of filling the low spots (that I already pointed out to him) on both sides. So had to fair almost all of it back instead of the patches before the big fill. That's life when time has to be divided to several tasks and obligations.
I also changed to mixing up my own compound. This seemed to me as an unpleasant task at first, but it's not that bad actually. I use Svapox epoxy with GL hardener, an inexpensive laminating system with a medium working time, and add 27% weight (about 300% volume I'd guess) of micro glass balloons to get a non sagging, quite dry (have to use force and slow speed for it to attach properly) and light, easily sanded compound. The point is to fill ENOUGH to fill all low spots, then sand back to the correct contouring in one go. Preferably, the low spots should be pre filled and sanded when not fully cured (cheese grating) in order to avoid any low spots to occur due to crimp during cure. I use my favourite grit 40 on the rigid board until I have the perfect shape and see the high spots of the laminate shining trough the filler. This saves huge on time spent, and it is much easier to get an even surface compared to the patchwork on the floats. Then it's time top fill pin holes, and change to finer grit to prepare for the water penetration barrier.
I guess all this is subjective, but this is my experience.
A few shots of the situation after removing 90% of yesterday's compound today:
These kind of disrupted surfaces takes a lot of time:
And I finally made the hole in the bobstay anchor, had been postponing it for a few years:
Friday, April 22, 2011
Turned around, I'm constantly covered in dust
Couldn't resist taking a photo of myself in front of the wing.
The heater have burned increasingly erratic lately, so it was time to check what was going on. I took out the burner head, and that was not pretty:
After cleaning, and it burns better but not perfect. I should have controlled the integrated pump filter and checked that it delivers 11 bar, but I didn't figure out how to get the pump out. It works for now.
Yesterday, the top side finally started to look quite good, and the hibuild primer and engine control that I ordered mid march had not yet arrived, so further progress required a flipped hull. I have had occasional help, but not by a craftsman, so I have to redo most of the finishing work. It still helps speeding up this work, that I must admit, is not the part I enjoy the most in boat building.
The main hull now entirely covered in fairing compound. I hope I won't see the boat in this position too often....
The faired tiller and mast raising pole still in progress
I will have a Teleflex engine control (still on backorder) under the cockpit seat, and a Spinlock ATCU unit for engine control with winch handle on the seat front. I need the Teleflex unit before the exact position can be determined, and then I have to insert a tube trough the aft cabin for the control cables and the fuel line. Hopefully, this will be done by next week.
Then pads for mast foot, winches and pulpit attachment points will be made before the Hempel high build (still on backorder) can be sprayed. Then, off to the paint shop.
The heater have burned increasingly erratic lately, so it was time to check what was going on. I took out the burner head, and that was not pretty:
After cleaning, and it burns better but not perfect. I should have controlled the integrated pump filter and checked that it delivers 11 bar, but I didn't figure out how to get the pump out. It works for now.
Yesterday, the top side finally started to look quite good, and the hibuild primer and engine control that I ordered mid march had not yet arrived, so further progress required a flipped hull. I have had occasional help, but not by a craftsman, so I have to redo most of the finishing work. It still helps speeding up this work, that I must admit, is not the part I enjoy the most in boat building.
The main hull now entirely covered in fairing compound. I hope I won't see the boat in this position too often....
The faired tiller and mast raising pole still in progress
I will have a Teleflex engine control (still on backorder) under the cockpit seat, and a Spinlock ATCU unit for engine control with winch handle on the seat front. I need the Teleflex unit before the exact position can be determined, and then I have to insert a tube trough the aft cabin for the control cables and the fuel line. Hopefully, this will be done by next week.
Then pads for mast foot, winches and pulpit attachment points will be made before the Hempel high build (still on backorder) can be sprayed. Then, off to the paint shop.
Temperatures are more and more often in excess of 10ºC so just ten more to go and I can finish the mast.
That's it for now, going back to the dust
Tuesday, April 05, 2011
Mast raising pole. Tiller. Fairing.
This might seem crazy, but in fact it is much easier for me to mock up a piece of carbon tube from cut-offs I have in the workshop than to source a piece of aluminium tube. So I'll have a carbon mast raising pole. The socket is in the barn, divided from the mast by a sheet of plastic, where it will hopefully cure enough to bring back to the workshop for final curing and attachment to the pole. A propose weather, someone might recall me whining about wind blowing out my heater, it was actually recorded 68 knots of wind on the farm that day. That's pretty windy.
Mast raising pole made up over a 2" PVC tube sprayed with silicon grease, wrapped with a piece of plastic and packaging tape used over the peel ply to compact the lay up. Worked great, this pole is probably better than my bow pole. Tiller seen behind. Very light and stiff.
After adding a 1/2" ID G10 tube to the bow web, I cut off the excess on each side and glued them in the "ears" of the bow pole to act as bushings protecting the carbon. Kept in line with the SS pin while curing.
The mast raising pole and the bow pole curing in front of the heater.
The tiller dry fitted to the daggerboard rudder case. I also made a pedestalish extension on the tiller to accept the pin for the tiller pilot.
And further fairing. Unfortunately, I hired two professionals to fair the boat, but one of them didn't show up, and the other one is too busy to work much on the boat. He does a good job when he is there though. That's the end of the June 6th plan I guess....
Mast raising pole made up over a 2" PVC tube sprayed with silicon grease, wrapped with a piece of plastic and packaging tape used over the peel ply to compact the lay up. Worked great, this pole is probably better than my bow pole. Tiller seen behind. Very light and stiff.
After adding a 1/2" ID G10 tube to the bow web, I cut off the excess on each side and glued them in the "ears" of the bow pole to act as bushings protecting the carbon. Kept in line with the SS pin while curing.
The mast raising pole and the bow pole curing in front of the heater.
The tiller dry fitted to the daggerboard rudder case. I also made a pedestalish extension on the tiller to accept the pin for the tiller pilot.
And further fairing. Unfortunately, I hired two professionals to fair the boat, but one of them didn't show up, and the other one is too busy to work much on the boat. He does a good job when he is there though. That's the end of the June 6th plan I guess....
Monday, April 04, 2011
Provisions for tillerpilot. Windows. Tiller. More fairing.
I updated my last post with a couple of pictures. My camera has been on unknown location for about a month now, I start to suspect it will not show up. Pictures from my phone.
I ended with the Raymarine ST 2000+ autopilot. It will be connected by NMEA 0183 to my Nexus NX2 system. I finally found someone who could give me answers to my enquiries regarding wireless and carbon, and he had rebuilt several TackTick systems to the wired Nexus after adding a carbon square head main sail to glass boats, and he was quite certain that wireless would not work in my boat.
I added a pedestal for the tillerpilot.
I have also added HD inserts for clutches on deck. And the mast raising wire brackets were finally finished so the position for the attachment plate could be established. Drilled and backfilled for those in the cabin side. Made the cut outs for the windows.
Also, I finally got the 1/2" rudder pivot pin and was able to start making the tiller. I made it up from two 4cm wide strips of 15mm Divinycell H100 with a layer of UD carbon in between, to make it stiff enough for further handling. When heat shaping the strips one by one it is easy to get any shape. Then glueing them together and keep them in the right shape while curing.
It seems it will even clear the engine, at least almost! PS fairing the cockpit, swim step, beam recesses etc is a lot of work!
I ended with the Raymarine ST 2000+ autopilot. It will be connected by NMEA 0183 to my Nexus NX2 system. I finally found someone who could give me answers to my enquiries regarding wireless and carbon, and he had rebuilt several TackTick systems to the wired Nexus after adding a carbon square head main sail to glass boats, and he was quite certain that wireless would not work in my boat.
I added a pedestal for the tillerpilot.
I have also added HD inserts for clutches on deck. And the mast raising wire brackets were finally finished so the position for the attachment plate could be established. Drilled and backfilled for those in the cabin side. Made the cut outs for the windows.
Also, I finally got the 1/2" rudder pivot pin and was able to start making the tiller. I made it up from two 4cm wide strips of 15mm Divinycell H100 with a layer of UD carbon in between, to make it stiff enough for further handling. When heat shaping the strips one by one it is easy to get any shape. Then glueing them together and keep them in the right shape while curing.
It seems it will even clear the engine, at least almost! PS fairing the cockpit, swim step, beam recesses etc is a lot of work!
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